What if all five children of Emperor Theodore II of Nicaea were sons?
IOTL Theodore II of Nicaea had four daughters and one son. The son, John IV, was among Theodore’s youngest. However what if John’s older sisters had been born boys instead? Would Michael Palaiologoi have been able to usury the throne against an adult Laskarid emperor following Theodore’s death?- Thread
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WI: Theodore Komnenos Doukas, Emperor of Thessalonica, captures Constantinople in 1230
As the tin says, what if Theodore Komnenos Doukas, Emperor of Thessalonica, avoided being defeated by the Bulgarians and successfully captured Constantinople in 1230? Up until his defeat and capture by the Bulgarians, Theodore and the Empire of Thessalonica had been expanding rapidly in the...- Thread
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Is it possible for the balkans to keep romance speaking under a Byzantine Empire able to repeal slavic invasions?
Is it possible? Today's Croatia (except Slavonia of course), Serbia (except Vojvodina), Bosnia and Bulgaria to be romance speaking with the byzantines successfully repealing slavic invasions.- Thread
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AHC: Khazar Khaganate outlasts Byzantine Empire
Your challenge is to have the Khazar Khaganate last longer than the Byzantine Empire. Bonus points if it's still around by 1500.- Thread
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Was it ever possible for the Byzantines to stay Western in character and culture?
Obviously, the core of the East was always in Greece, but was the obsoletion of the Latin language and culture inevitable?What developments would be needed to prolong or indefinitely keep it? If a later Emperor had some nostalgic ideas, is a later revival possible?Retainment seems to have a...- Thread
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A Byzantine Trade Republic?
How could the Byzantines with their 1450 Territories become a Trading Republic like Genoa and Venice? How would this affect history, if at all?- Thread
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WI: Silk not smuggled out of China?
According to some accounts, Emperor Justinian I managed to support two monks in their efforts to smuggle silkworms out of China, and succeeded, leading to the establishment of a native silk industry. The monks smuggled silkworm eggs and young larvae inside their bamboo canes, and successfully...- Thread
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DBAHC: Swap the fates of the Byzantine and Sasanian Empires
We all know what happened after the death of Muhammad. The newly Muslim Arabs spread out of Arabia, warring against both the Byzantine and Sasanian Empires. But while they completely conquered the former, the latter managed to hold on despite the beating it took.Your challenge is to have it so...- Thread
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WI: Gunpowder Discovered Under Justin I of the ERE?
The idea of Rome discovering gunpowder has been touted before, largely on YouTube to be honest. It's the sort of thing that would revolutionize warfare no matter what, and has been used in numerous atls to save rome. But what if the Eastern Roman Empire discovered the secrets of gunpowder under...- Thread
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What are some maps of An Age of Miracles - Revival of Rhomaion that go in chronological order?
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DBAHC: Make The Bishop of Rome A Political Figure
OTL, after the fall of Rome in 476, while the Goths had the northern portion, the Patriarch of Rome quickly contacted the Eastern roman empire and asked for their protection. While they were there they also took southern italy, just in case. However, this ended any ideas that the spiritual...- Thread
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DBWI: What if the Roman Empire fell?
The Roman Empire is undeniably the most powerful nation in the Mediterranean, controlling Anatolia, Italy, The Balkan Peninsula, Egypt, and the rest of North Africa. However there was one moment in history when the empire seemed on the verge of losing everything, Islam had risen in Arabia and...- Thread
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- Forum: Alternate History Discussion: After 1900
The House of Komnenos, Like a Phoenix From the Ashes: An Eastern Roman Timeline
Hi everyone, this is my first attempt at a historical timeline. I've always been a history buff with a passion for Classical Roman and later Eastern Roman history. I've always wanted to explore the possibilities of a more successful restoration of the Byzantine Empire after 1204 under the House...- Word Count: 5.5k
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WI: Justinian Focuses on Italian Reintegration
Justinian and Bellesarius(?) Are famous for reconquering vast swathes of the old empire, namely italy and north africa, but it bankrupted the empire to do and left them open to Persian and Islamic rushes in relatively short succession. What if instead, Justinian conquered italy (tbh bringing...- Thread
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WI: Successful Bulgarian uprising of Peter Delyan?
Peter Delyan was a Bulgarian noble from Byzantine Balkans who, in 1040, claimed descent from the last Bulgarian Emperor, Samuel I, and rose up in rebellion against the central Byzantine imperial administration with local support, aiming to restore Bulgaria's independence. His revolt was the only...- Thread
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How would a surviving ERE affect the Middle East up to modern day?
This could go in either pre-1900 or post-1900 but since the POD would be before I placed it here. So, I've had a scenario the Roman Empire turns itself around after Manuel Komnenos in the 1170's, manages to reconquer Anatolia, ally with Hungary and establish suzerainty over the Levant. Due to...- Thread
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DBAHC: Arabs Conquer Byzantium Or Persia
Ooc: for the sake of anyone new, the DB means double-blind, meaning we ask an alternate history question from the perspective of someone in an alt-history timeline. So where we ask 'what if the south won the acw,' people in that tl ask 'what if the union won the second revolution.' The POD is an...- Thread
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Surviving Palaiologos
Constantine XI the last ERE emperor died without children while he's only relative in monferrat and morea followed him soon.pod: WI Constantine had a male child and the dynasty survived through the story until the Greek Independence war, would he be re crowned king/basileous of a reborn...- Thread
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WI: Alexios and Andronikos Komnenos, eldest sons of Emperor John II Komnenos, hadn’t died early?
As the tin says. Alexios and Andronikos were John’s most capable sons and campaigned heavily with him. Alexios has already been crowned his co-emperor. Unfortunately first Alexios and then Andronikos died prematurely from diseases while campaigning with their father. What if their illnesses...- Thread
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AHD: The Caliphate, its nature and the potentiality for Rebellion, a short discussion
This is an introduction to a discussion to a topic that I have thought about quite often as of late. To preface, the comparison made, is one that postulates the Arab conquests and Islamic invasion as both an inheritor of sorts of some aspects of those prior, both Roman, Mesopotamian, Jewish...- Thread
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The Byzantine Empire re-emerges and Greek language and culture dominates, but it’s become Islamic: the sublime state of the Holy Roman Caliphate OC Alternate History 41 comments. This is essentially a modern day Byzantium, whose tale is altered in the battle of menzikert in 1066. Over the years, through a series of competent emperors from all walks of life (Byzantine politics also become more meritocratic during this stage, due to an influx of ambitious young nobles from conquered territories), the Byzantine empire regains much of its lost territory, eventually. Establishing of the Byzantine Empire - world history, byzantium - online classes for pupils and students on bilimland.kz.
Achievements Of The Byzantine Empire
- This Alternate History looks at what could have happened if the Turks did NOT regain Central Anatolia. This period, which spans 910 to 1680, is divided into four 'eras' of Byzantine Imperialism.
- History and geography of the Byzantine Empire, the eastern half of the Roman Empire, which survived for a thousand years after the western half had crumbled into various feudal kingdoms. In the 14th century the Ottoman Turks began to encroach on Byzantine territory, and the empire fell to them in 1453.